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Numbers and Dates

in old parish registers

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The standard way of entering dates for genealogy records

Who would have thought that entering something as simple as a date could be so complicated.? Unfortunately it is!

First there is a choice between dd/mm/yyyy (01/12/1850), or the American format mm/dd/yyyy (12/01/1850). To make it ddmmyyyy ? (01121850) or dd-mm-yyyy (01-12-1850)? Some people as a standard prefer yyyymmdd (18501201) because (apparently) it can be sorted easily into chronological order. (Which unfortunately doesn't work for genealogists).

Unfortunately, all of the above can cause problems when dealing with recording dates from old parish registers.

This is what the whole of this page is about. Defining a standard way of recording dates which is unambiguous, and which will always work, no matter what the date is. Unfortunately, we have to allow for several little "quirks" of time.

The correct format to enter dates into a genealogical record is:
dd mon yyyy(/y(0))
e.g. 01 Dec 1850 or 21 Jan 1723/4 or 21 Jan 1729/30

There are just two "awkward" years: 1599/00 and 1699/00, but they do follow the rule.

There is no ambiguity in this method. During the course of this document, we shall investigate why.


Numbers

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 etc. right? To us, yes, but this hasn't always been the case.

Old parish registers can show numbers in a few different ways. The old way of forming them can also be different to what we know nowadays.

Latin format numbers

i, ii, iii, iv, v, vi, vii, viii, ix, x (1 to 10)
xx, xxx (20 & 30)
xl (40)
l (50)
lx, lxx, lxxx (60, 70, 80)
xc (90)
c (100)
d (500)
m (1000) any of which can appear in upper or lower case. MCMLXVI mcmlxvi

Most of us are fairly used to Latin numbering. But even here a long number such as a year takes some working out.

There is another little "quirk" with Latin numbers as written. It goes like this:

vj (6)
vij (7)
viij (8)
xj (11)
xij (12)

Notice that the last i, or even a single i, is written as a "j"

That's even before we have the problem of deciphering the handwriting style! But even then, some clerics wrote numbers in words. One, two, three.... but in Latin of course. We need to be able to identify these. Fortunately, most of them, even if we haven't ever learned them, seem familiar. (Because much of English is based on latin anyway). There are also cases where a mixture of Latin and English is used!

Figure Latin
figure
Written as a date English
translation
Latin
number
Odd things.
Some common
1 i or j primo on the first Unus
2 ii or ij secundo on second duo iid
3 iii or iij tertio on third tres
4 iv or iiij quarto on fourth quattuor
5 v quinto on fifth quinque vth
6 vi or vj sexto on sixth sex
7 vii or vij septimo on seventh septem
8 viii or viij octavo on eighth octo
9 ix or viiii or viiij nono on ninth novem
10 x decimo on tenth decem
11 xi or xj undecimo on eleventh undecim
12 xii or xij duodecimo on twelfth duodecim
13 xiii or xiij decimo tertio on thirtheenth tredecim
14 xiv decimo quarto on fourteenth quattuordecim
15 xv decimo quinto on fifteenth quindecim
16 xvi or xvj decimo sexto on sixteenth sedecim
17 xvii or xvij decimo septimo on seventeenth septendecim
18 xviii or xviij decimo octo, or
duodevicesimo
on eighteenth
two from twentieth
octodecim, or
duodeviginti
19 xix decimo nono, or
undevicesimo
on the nineteenth
one from twentieth
undeviginti
20 xx vicesimo on the twentieth viginti xxtie = 20tie
21 xxi or xxj vicesimo primo on twenty first
30 xxx tricesimo on the thirtieth triginta xxxtie
40 xl quadraginta
50 l or L
60 lx
70 lxx
80 lxxx
90 xc
100 c or C centum
200 cc
500 d or D
1000 m or M

MD = 1000+500 = 1500
MDC = 1000+600 = 1600
MDCC = 1000+700 = 1700

MDCXX = 1000+600+20 = 1620
MDCLXVIII = 1000+600+50+10+8 =1668

Fortunately for us, most Latin years written in parish registers are from 1538 to about 1640, although most ceased to be using Latin before 1600.


Months

We are used to January through December, but it wasn't always quite that way.

Let's start with the Latin December, because that's easy to figure out. Yes. The 10th month. That is because until 1752, the year number changed over on March 26. The first time that 1st January was used as the first day of the year was 1752.

Month Abbrevation
used in
transcript
Old month
number
Sometimes
written
New month
number
March Mar 1 3
April Apr 2 4
May May 3 5
June Jun 4 6
July Jul 5 7
August Aug 6 8
September Sep 7 7ber 9
October Oct 8 8ber 10
November Nov 9 9ber 11
December Dec 10 10ber 12
January Jan 11 1
February Feb 12 2

We have to be aware of this in reading numerical months in old registers, right up to December 1751. Watch out for those 8ber type entries too. Not the 8th month = August!

Just to make life a little awkward for us, there was advanced warning of this change, and some clergymen jumped the gun and began using January 1st as the year changeover some years earlier, whilst some stubborn ones carried on using the year changeover as March 26th! Fortunately you can identify these very easily in a register, as you can see where they have written the year number changes.

When recording data from registers into a database (as opposed to making a literal transcription) use the three letter abbreviation for the month, e.g. Jan Sep etc. (without full stops/periods).


The 1752 calendar change

Before 1752, the year number changed over on March 25th (Lady day). The year 1752 was the first year that January 1st was the first day of the year.

This gives us a potential little problem when recording dates before March 25th in each year.

If March 25th was the first day of the year, and let's say a couple were married on that day, in 1750. They could quite easily have a baptism of their first child on March 24th 1750 - a year later !

That's our problem. Some genealogists record precisely what is recorded in a parish register. Some record it as written, but didn't realise that in our modern calendar they could actually be referring to a different year. Some genealogists make an allowance and record 5 January 1750 as 5 January 1751 because 1751 is the "real" year in our modern calendar.

The big problem with either, is that we don't know if a genealogist or transcriber has written it literally or made allowance for the modern calendar!

So, the correct standard for writing these dates in our records (and when we transcribe registers) is in the form 1750/1. It is then extremely obvious that 1750 is what was written in the register, but it was really 1751 in the new calendar. 1749/50, 1630/1, 1699/00 etc. Easy! No confusion.

So, for all years up to and including 1751, dates between 1 January and 24 March inclusive, are written with double dates. 23 Jan 1731/2.


Regnal years

Regnal years are really hard to get to grips with. Unfortunately, some clergymen used them in earlier registers.

The system works like this. Instead of a normal calendar year, the year written down was the number of years since the year in which the Coronation took place. Worse still, year number 1 started on the day of the Coronation. When Edward I became King - 1239 (and from then onwards), the Regnal year started on the day the reign began (i.e. before the Coronation). Often, but not always, the day the previous monarch died.

Years alone are relatively easy to calculate. The ones we are really interested in are those from 1538, when parish registers began, although of course Regnal years were commonly used before this date.

1509 - 1547 Henry VIII 1 Hen VIII
1538 30 Hen VIII
1547 39 Hen VIII
1547 Edward VI 1 Edw VI
1553 7 Edw VI
1553 Mary I 1 Mar
1558 6 Mar
1558 Elizabeth I 1 Eliz
1600 42 Eliz
1603 45 Eliz
1603 James I 1 Jac
1625 22 Jac
1625 Charles I 1 Chas
1649 24 Chas
1660 Charles II 1Chas II
1685 25 Chas II
1685 James II 1 Jac II
1688 4 Jac II
1688 William III & Mary II 1Gul III
1700 12 Gul II
1702 14 Gul III
1702 Anne 1 Ann
1714 13 Ann
1714 George I 1 Geo
1727 13 Geo I
1727 George II 1 Geo II
1760 33 Geo II

It is uncommon for Regnal years to be used much later than this. But there was still the occasional die-hard clergyman who did, and some scholars and historians still use Regnal years.

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